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Avagene Moore: Please do NOT send direct messages to the speaker or moderator as it makes it difficult for us to follow the discussion. Avagene Moore: Our discussion today is based on a Natural Hazards Center Quick Response Report (QRR # 128) titled "South Carolina's Response to Hurricane Floyd," co-authored by Dr. Kirstin Dow and Dr. Susan Cutter. Avagene Moore: We are pleased to have Dr. Kirstin Dow with us today to share her research with us. Kirstin was with us in July '98 to discuss "Crying Wolf: Repeat Response to Hurricane Evacuation Orders," her earlier research on factors influencing evacuation decisions. See http://www.emforum.org/vlibrary/980701.htm . Avagene Moore: Kirstin is an Assistant Professor of Geography at the University of South Carolina. Her research interests center on issues of vulnerability to environmental hazards. Currently she is involved in research projects on urban ecosystems and hazards and vulnerability in urban areas. Avagene Moore: And now, please help me welcome our speaker, Dr. Kirstin Dow. After Kirstin presents her paper, I will remind you of the protocol for the Q&A segment of today's session. Kirstin, I turn the floor to you now. Kirstin Dow: Hello, thank you. I am very pleased to be invited back. Kirstin Dow: Today I am going to talk about new research and research that builds on the 1998 work. Kirstin Dow: My Title is Learning from the Hurricane Floyd Evacuation in South Carolina Kirstin Dow: Over the past 4 years six hurricanes of varying strength have threatened the South Carolina coast. When Hurricane Hugo, a category 4 hurricane and the worst storm in the state in recent history made landfall in 1989, over 60% of the population evacuated (Baker 1994). Kirstin Dow: Nonetheless, the evacuation for Hurricane Floyd was unprecedented in this state. Approximately ½ million people were involved in the evacuation that resulted in bumper-to-bumper traffic on the interstate highways. Kirstin Dow: Under these conditions, a distance of 100 miles sometimes took over 15 hours by car. Criticism mounted quickly as people stuck in traffic picked up their cell phones and radio stations broadcast awareness of the problems. Kirstin Dow: Not until late in the day of the first wave of evacuation did the State agencies succeed in transforming a major stretch of Interstate 26 between Charleston and Columbia into a one- way route away from the coast. All evacuees were off the roads by the time Floyd closed in on the Carolinas. Nevertheless, the evacuation process came under heavy scrutiny and the "success" of the process occupied the center of that debate. Kirstin Dow: I will comment on three primary issues: 1) Response to mandatory evacuation, including consideration of the potential "crying wolf" syndrome from previous storms; 2) longitudinal data on response in Horry County; and 3)Traffic on the interstate and non- use of alternate routes Kirstin Dow: Most of the data I will discuss was gathered in 2 surveys: 1) Statewide survey of residents in affected areas; 2) Re- survey of Horry County residents Kirstin Dow: The following statistics describe the Coastal Carolina Survey, I will introduce more information on the other survey later when I talk about Horry County specifically. Kirstin Dow: * Phone interviews of coastal residents October 25- November 9, 1999; (six weeks after Floyd)* 513 completed interviews, 19 partial; * Response rate 63.5% * Sampling error 4.2%;* Conducted by USC s Institute of Public Affairs Survey Research Lab Kirstin Dow: Now, findings of the Coastal Carolina survey... Kirstin Dow: Sixty-four percent of respondents, sampled from among residents of the mandatory evacuation area, evacuated in anticipation of Hurricane Floyd. This is the highest coastal average reported for the state since Hurricane Hugo, a 1989 category 4 storm. Kirstin Dow: Evacuation Statistics within the Mandatory Evacuation Zone Kirstin Dow: * Evacuated their home 64% (Left the area 59%; Stayed in the area 5%) Kirstin Dow: * Tried to evacuate, but could not 2%; * Did not evacuate 34% Kirstin Dow: These are generally consistent with findings of the broader East Coast study (Baker 2000). Kirstin Dow: While the severity of the storm was a top concern all along the coast, landfall location emerged as more important in the northern part of the state, especially in Horry County. Throughout the coastal areas, the perceived safety of the home was the major factor in residents deciding to stay in an area despite evacuation orders. Kirstin Dow: Statistics on the Most Important Factor in Decisions to Evacuate (First response given) Kirstin Dow: * Severity of the storm-23%; * Past experience with hurricanes-17%; * Governor s order-17% Kirstin Dow: If we look at all responses, we see the same ranking of issues. . . Kirstin Dow: Statistics on decision to evacuate: All responses (Ranked 1,2, and 3 in importance) Kirstin Dow: * Severity of the storm-20%; * Past experience-17%; * Governor s order-13%; * Probability of landfall in the area-9% Kirstin Dow: Throughout the coastal areas, the perceived safety of the home was the major factor in residents deciding to stay in an area despite evacuation orders. Kirstin Dow: These are the top three Important Factors in Decisions to Stay Kirstin Dow: First- Felt safer at home-16% Kirstin Dow: Second-Probability of direct hit-11%; * Not want to leave pets-11%; * too much traffic-11% Kirstin Dow: Third-Info from the Weather Channel-7%; * Work responsibilities-7% Kirstin Dow: Concerns over the volume of traffic were tied among the second most commonly mentioned factor as 11% of non-evacuees included this concern. In the past 4 years of research, this is the first time that traffic concerns have been among the top three reasons to stay rather than evacuate, but traffic has been emerging as a concern. Horry County evacuees for Hurricane Bonnie (1998) also mentioned traffic as a reason for non-evacuation. Kirstin Dow: Given the diversity of concerns and the 35% non- evacuation rate, we asked respondents 2 questions about their support for calling evacuations. Kirstin Dow: A. Given what you knew about the storm before it made landfall, was evacuation the proper response to Hurricane Floyd? Kirstin Dow: B. On another issue. . . given the uncertainties about the hurricane track, was evacuation the appropriate response to Hurricane Floyd? Kirstin Dow: 86% said yes to question A; 84% said Yes to question B Kirstin Dow: Despite decisions to stay and importance of non- governmental sources in decision-making respondents strongly supported precautionary approach to calling for evacuation. Kirstin Dow: We have a longitudinal data set for a group of Horry County residents that covers 6 hurricane evacuations and 4 years. While we are on the topic of why people evacuate, I would like to say a bit more about these findings. Kirstin Dow: First, the survey description. . . Kirstin Dow: Many respondents to a 1998 study of the Hurricane Bonnie evacuation agreed to participate in follow-up interviews. The 1998 research took place in September and drew on a convenient sample of Horry County residents for a 10-minute face-to-face survey. At that time, residents were asked their evacuation decisions for Hurricane Bonnie, as well as the Hurricanes Bertha and Fran, which occurred two years earlier. Kirstin Dow: Horry County: Selected Respondents --* Sample of previously-contacted respondents (N=123); * Not statistically representative; * Almost all were in the evacuated area (95%) Kirstin Dow: Table 1 here please. Amy Sebring: http://www.emforum.org/vlibrary/dow2/Slide001.htm Kirstin Dow: In reviewing Horry County Evacuation History, evacuation rates appear to be more consistent with the maximum wind speeds than landfall strength. Kirstin Dow: This relationship is also noted in a longitudinal study conducted by Whitehead et al. (2000) of evacuation of North Carolina residents for Hurricanes Bonnie, Dennis, and Floyd. Their study found that evacuation rates are correlated with storm strength. In comparison with Hurricane Bonnie evacuation rates, NC residents were more likely to evacuate for Floyd (p=0.01) and less likely to evacuate for Dennis (p=0.01) (Whitehead et al. 2000). Kirstin Dow: As our data on Hurricanes Bertha and Bonnie illustrate, the relationship to storm intensity does not hold in all situations. Wind speed is only one dimension of the risk posed; flood potential and probability of nearby landfall are also frequently mentioned risk issues. Kirstin Dow: Finally, considered as a temporal sequence, the relatively small changes in evacuation rates for Hurricanes Bertha, Bonnie and Fran generally seem to support more detailed analyses indicating that the so-called "crying wolf" does not have a major impact on evacuation rates. Kirstin Dow: Insert Figure 2 here please Amy Sebring: http://www.emforum.org/vlibrary/dow2/Slide002.htm Kirstin Dow: We have reasons for evacuation or staying only for the 1998 and 1999 hurricanes. While a correlation with storm strength is indicated, this small sample suggests that the reasons for evacuation are shifting in importance. The safety of the house becomes more important in more intense storms as does the role of past experience. Kirstin Dow: On another point, the evacuation actions of Horry County residents in response to Hurricane Floyd is fairly consistent with the decision criteria they setout for themselves in 1998. In 1998 following Hurricane Bonnie, we asked these residents what they would do if another hurricane threatened the South Carolina coast. We compared this to their actual behavior in Hurricane Floyd. Kirstin Dow: Approximately 60% of respondents said that their decision would "depend" on various factors. One group responded that their decision to evacuate would "depend on" specified decision criteria. To a large extent, at least 75%, this group as they expected they would taking into the account the strength of the storm, the relative proximity of the anticipated landfall, and the governor s evacuation order. Kirstin Dow: Among the group that replied, "yes" they would evacuate in the future, 97% did so for Floyd. Kirstin Dow: However, the group that said "no," they would not evacuate in the future showed the greatest deviation from plans in response to Hurricane Floyd, 70% of them evacuated. Kirstin Dow: Only 12 of the 19 "No future evacuations" respondents explained what convinced them to evacuate for Floyd; of that group 58% indicated concern over the strength of the storm and probability of nearby landfall. Kirstin Dow: Chi-square analysis of these data provide strong evidence of a relationship (p=0.000) between anticipated and actual evacuations, despite the changes in opinions of the respondents who had not planned to evacuate. Kirstin Dow: These Horry County residents are also actively seeking information from a wide variety of sources and relying on considerable amounts of past experience. Kirstin Dow: Some Experience statistics. . . Kirstin Dow: 63% Have been advised to evacuate over 5 times; 19% Have been advised to evacuate over 10 times; 44% Have suffered hurricane related damage Kirstin Dow: Some Statistics on information gathering . . . Kirstin Dow: 58% Leave a news source on all day once they are aware that a hurricane is within 2-3 days of the East Coast and might threaten South Carolina; Kirstin Dow: 53% Leave a news source on all day once they are aware that a hurricane is within 2-3 days of the East Coast and might threaten South Carolina; Kirstin Dow: 30% Consult the internet for information Kirstin Dow: These longitudinal surveys indicate that some residents have developed a fairly robust strategies for making evacuation decisions that are more dependent on individuals household circumstances, assessments, and preferences than official orders. Kirstin Dow: The strategies that they are using for making decisions about evacuation are drawing on a more diverse and individualized set of criteria than has been identified in previous surveys. Kirstin Dow: Making these decisions involves diligent monitoring of a variety of information sources and evaluation of past experiences. Kirstin Dow: We have named this emerging subset of coastal residents as "hurricane savvy" based on these characteristics of stable strategies for response, active learning and investigation of hurricane information, and high levels of experience. Kirstin Dow: With that look at why people evacuate, I want to return to the general population survey and issues of traffic once people evacuate. Kirstin Dow: Attempts to account for that traffic volume after the fact identified several contributing factors in addition to the distance traveled. Kirstin Dow: It is clear that most research has been done on adequacy of sheltering destinations not the characteristics of the trip that influence levels of demand on parts of the transportation infrastructure. Kirstin Dow: Informal observation generated many suggestions of the sources of concentrated demand. Kirstin Dow: Because traffic was concentrated on the Interstate highways and was comparatively light on the state and county roads, some observers speculated that evacuees did not have maps with them and were reluctant to take alternative, less familiar routes. Others noted that traffic was worse because some households took more than one car. Kirstin Dow: Finally, the relatively short interval between the announcement of the voluntary and mandatory evacuations, as well as the evacuees traveling north from Georgia and Florida, contributed to the greater congestion. Kirstin Dow: The distances traveled did not receive a great deal of press attention did not receive a great deal of direct attention, but we included it as a related issue. Our questions addressed each of these topics. Kirstin Dow: According to our survey of coastal Carolina residents, evacuees relied heavily on the Interstate system while traffic on smaller highways and roads was reportedly much lighter. Kirstin Dow: Interstate-26, between Charleston and Columbia, was the most heavily used route during the evacuation with 19% of respondents taking it during part of their evacuation journey. Kirstin Dow: Interstate 95, the second most commonly used route, carried about 10% of the respondents. In addition, I-95 carried considerable traffic from Florida and Georgia. Kirstin Dow: This preference for the Interstate seems to be related to more than lack of information about alternatives. Kirstin Dow: Approximately 65% of respondents had maps in their cars. However, only about half of respondents with maps used those maps to select their evacuation routes. Kirstin Dow: anecdotal information gathered by listening to radio call-in conducted during the evacuation suggests that navigational instructions are only one dimension of the route information evacuees are seeking. Kirstin Dow: With 50% of the evacuees having easy access to information on the locations of alternative routes and not using it, more work is needed on this topic. Kirstin Dow: The traffic jam was also blamed on the heavy concentration of people on the roads due to the close spacing of the Governor s voluntary and mandatory evacuation orders. Kirstin Dow: The voluntary evacuation was called at 7 am Tuesday, September 14, 1999 and the mandatory evacuation order followed at 5 hours later (noon). Kirstin Dow: Figure 3 here please Amy Sebring: http://www.emforum.org/vlibrary/dow2/Slide003.htm Kirstin Dow: The majority of residents, 61%, left on Tuesday between 6 am and 9 p.m. followed by a second large group of 31% during the daylight hours of Wednesday, 15th. Kirstin Dow: Only a small percentage left Monday (5%) prior to any advisories or evacuation orders. In other words, an estimated 359,000-412,000 people left the coast on Tuesday. The vast majority left in one of two periods, either between 9 am and noon (25.4%) or from noon to 3 p.m. (22.6%). Kirstin Dow: The tendency to leave during daylight hours and to show some clustering around the time of the evacuation order is largely consistent with other hurricane evacuation reports. Kirstin Dow: Average distances traveled to evacuate appear to have increased. Of the evacuees among the coastal Carolina respondents, 56% left South Carolina, 32% stayed in state, and 9% stayed in their county of origin for Hurricane Floyd. Kirstin Dow: The number of evacuees who traveled out of state is significantly higher than reported in past evacuations. The percentage of respondents evacuating within their local areas is lower than observed in past studies of hurricane evacuation in South Carolina. (The third option here would be to evacuate in state) Kirstin Dow: In contrast, past surveys of South Carolina residents who evacuated from Hurricanes Bertha and Fran in 1996 found that 15% and 28% respectively, evacuated out of state (Baker 1985; Baker 1997). Kirstin Dow: Evacuation in the local area was more common in these hurricane earlier events with approximately 50% evacuating in of the "local" area for Diana in 1984, and 22% or Bertha and 19% for Fran in 1996 evacuating in their own neighborhood (Baker 1985; Baker 1997). Evacuees from Hurricane Floyd clearly traveled longer distances. Kirstin Dow: Insert figure 4 here please Amy Sebring: http://www.emforum.org/vlibrary/dow2/Slide004.htm Kirstin Dow: Figure 4 shows the destinations of respondents broken down by according to densely populated counties running from South to North along the coast. All nearby states, including the more distant Tennessee, were destinations. Kirstin Dow: Baker (2000) and Gladwin (1999) report significant levels of out of state travel for residents of other states evacuating from Floyd. Kirstin Dow: It is also important to note that some evacuees traveled to North Carolina moving into areas also at risk due to the uncertainties in landfall location. In this case, North Carolina received both the impacts of landfall and much of the heavy rainfall and associated flooding, resulting in the greatest disaster in that state s history. Kirstin Dow: Insert figure 5 here please Amy Sebring: http://www.emforum.org/vlibrary/dow2/Slide005.htm Kirstin Dow: For those who evacuated in South Carolina, the larger inland cities -- Columbia, Augusta, and Greenville -- were generally important destinations. Kirstin Dow: Figure 5 indicates another dimension of the regional variability of evacuation practices among residents in the state. Kirstin Dow: None of the evacuees in the southernmost part of the state (Beaufort) stayed in their counties of origin. Kirstin Dow: While in the Charleston area and particularly in the Horry County/Myrtle Beach regions, more residents evacuated to other destinations within their home county. Kirstin Dow: These regional variations in evacuation travel will need greater attention to support future evacuation transportation planning. Kirstin Dow: Time to sum this up . . . Kirstin Dow: Conclusions Kirstin Dow: * Evacuation rate of 64.2% (+/- 4.2%) in coastal SC evacuation zone (Roughly 590,750 to 673,455 residents left SC coastal counties in anticipation of Hurricane Floyd) Kirstin Dow: * Residents are traveling further in their evacuation than indicated in past studies Kirstin Dow: * In Horry County, robust, active decision strategies to cope with hurricanes evacuations characterize a hurricane-savvy population. Kirstin Dow: In closing, I think we learned some lessons and identified some areas where we need to concentrate learning efforts Kirstin Dow: * Public uses information other than evacuation advisories/orders in decision-making. Kirstin Dow: * Responding to "hurricane savvy" groups may require targeted risk communication to pay more attention to issues of preparedness and the role of experience in guiding evacuation decisions. Kirstin Dow: * There is need for improvement in navigational aids and reduction in travel time. Kirstin Dow: * Public support for evacuation as a protective, precautionary strategy is strong. Kirstin Dow: Finally I would like to acknowledge some other participants in this effort. . . Kirstin Dow: My collaborator over the past 4 years is Dr. Susan Cutter. She regrets not being able to join us here. Kirstin Dow: Thanks to other members of the Research Team: Dr. Robert Oldendick, USC Institute of Public Affairs; Patrice Burns and Melanie Baker, Hazards Research Lab Associates; Dr. Deborah Thomas, Associate Director, Hazards Research Lab Kirstin Dow: Research was supported by a Quick Response Grant from the Natural Hazards Research and Applications Information Center Kirstin Dow: For a Summary Report: www.cla.sc.edu/geog/hrl/floyd_evac.html or the Natural Hazards Center Quick Response reports on-line Kirstin Dow: With that, I am finished with my presentation. I would be happy to take some questions. Back to you, Ava. Ava Moore: Thank you for sharing your research with us, Kirstin. Very interesting findings. I am sure our audience has a number of questions. ... Ava Moore: Audience please enter a question mark (?) to indicate you wish to be recognized, go ahead and compose your comment or question, but wait for recognition before hitting the enter key or clicking on Send. ... Jules-Fleet Mortgage: ? Ava Moore: We now invite your questions and comments. Amy Sebring: (The quick response report is linked from today's background page.) Ava Moore: Jules, when you are ready, please input your question. Jules-Fleet Mortgage: Kirstin, Did you data show what percentage stayed in shelters? jeff phillips: ? Elaine Sudanowicz: ? Kirstin Dow: We did not ask about shelters in this survey. . . Kirstin Dow: We were concerned with length and choose to focus on travel issues. Ava Moore: Jeff, your question, please. jeff phillips: What explains the delay in opening the interstate in one direction? Kirstin Dow: There was not a plan in place to reverse the lanes so . . . Amy Sebring: ? steve abrams: Did your research look at vulnerability zones and the population within a pre-identified zone? Kirstin Dow: the transportation and other departments had a big job thinking through and implementing that effort. Ava Moore: (Please input ? first and wait for your turn to ask question.) Ava Moore: Elaine, you are next. Kirstin Dow: Susan cutter has looked at vulnerability issues in Georgetown . . . Kirstin Dow: but, in this study we did not go beyond thinking about special medical needs. Elaine Sudanowicz: Did your analysis include animal evacuation and sheltering of pet issues since your survey indicated 11% refused to evacuate due to pet/farm animal relocation issues? Kirstin Dow: That is an interesting question, but it is not one that we have addressed yet. steve abrams: ? Ava Moore: Amy, your question, please. Amy Sebring: Kirstin, I believe your study also had some finding regarding different priorities between public officials and the public. Is that correct, and can you mention briefly? Kirstin Dow: Yes, we also asked the public about evacuation priorities . . . Kirstin Dow: and, as part of a biannual survey of public officials conducted here at USC . . . jeff phillips: ? Kirstin Dow: we added one question asking officials to identify hurricane planning priorities. Kirstin Dow: We found that they agreed on safety, but that the public put more emphasis on providing information Ava Moore: Steve, you are next. steve abrams: Did your research look at vulnerability zones and pre- identified populations with in zones, i.e. storm surge and so forth? Kirstin Dow: There is more discussion in the Quick response report, Amy. Kirstin Dow: We surveyed populations within the mandatory evacuation zones. . . . Kirstin Dow: Jay baker did more research delimiting evacuation rates by surge zone. Ava Moore: Jeff, your question, please. Amy Sebring: ? jeff phillips: What internet sources were used by the 30%, media, govt., NOAA ...is it increasing as we expect? Kirstin Dow: Based on what I have heard, 30% is quite high. 10% seems more common. . . . Kirstin Dow: As far as what they were using, not many people answered that part of the question... Kirstin Dow: but, those that did answer noted weather.com, weatherunderground and NOAA. Roger Fritzel: ? Ava Moore: Amy, please. Amy Sebring: I believe Jay Baker has also recently found that having "mandatory" evacuation orders seems to make a difference. I am particularly interested in the timing of the decisions. This clustering you noted, what is the implication for planners? chriswaters: Chris Waters ? Kirstin Dow: In his findings, Jay Baker reports that people who believe that they were told by officials are more likely to evacuate.. .. Kirstin Dow: We have found that although people are listening for evacuation orders, that order is not always the critical factor they say convinced them to evacuate. Kirstin Dow: The clustering of evacuation times seen here implies that daylight hours will be more heavily traveled and that timing of announcement and preparation time is important. Ava Moore: Roger, your turn please. Roger Fritzel: I'm interested in any findings from your research relating to evacuation routes in major urban areas. Kirstin Dow: The largest urban areas we dealt with were Charleston, Myrtle Beach, and Hilton Head. .. Kirstin Dow: In Charleston particularly we saw the heavy use of the interstate travelling west, although that interstate I-26... Kirstin Dow: is paralleled by a highway to the north and south. ... jeff phillips: ? Kirstin Dow: I would like to say more about why people with maps choose to stay on the interstate, but I don't know at this point. Ava Moore: Chris, your turn, please. chriswaters: Has the changing demography of SC been factored in as a possibility for greater tendency to evacuate? peter buchner: ? Kirstin Dow: Yes, Chris we looked at age groups and evacuation rates, but in this survey we did not find a significant correlation. ... Kirstin Dow: In other research there have been significant findings. Ava Moore: Jeff, your question, please. chriswaters: ? Bill Lloyd: ? Ava Moore: We have lost Jeff momentarily. Peter, your question please. peter buchner: Disaster management means to decide into uncertainty. Yours was to correlate private emotion and official scale … peter buchner: Did you recommend a general model for decision making? what are the elements? Kirstin Dow: We were interested in that part of management that deals with how people respond to the information that is communicated to them ... Kirstin Dow: including the importance of uncertainty and the diversity of sources they have available. Kirstin Dow: We did not recommend a specific model of decision making. Ava Moore: Jeff, do you have your question ready now? jeff phillips: Does "hurricane savvy" mean more likely to stay at home? Kirstin Dow: Jeff, no hurricane savvy does not mean more likely to stay at home... Kirstin Dow: in practical terms, it means that they are more likely to know under what circumstances they are going to leave. Ava Moore: Chris, you have another question? Please input now. chriswaters: I was thinking more of the increase in non-transient farm workers or more increased permanent northern population as opposed to age. Ava Moore: Further comment, Kirstin? Kirstin Dow: Another good question. Our survey was a phone survey of randomly selected households. ... Kirstin Dow: We acknowledged those populations to the extent that they were represented in the statistical design which was weighted for population. Ava Moore: Bill, you are up next, please. We have time for a couple more questions - input your ? now. Bill Lloyd: Did the government do anything in advance to give homeowners a better idea of the actual risk involved at their given address? i.e. mail out flood zone maps, storm surge maps, etc. Kirstin Dow: The distribution of that kind of information varies along the coast. ... Bill Lloyd: Where you able to measure if this type of information impacted their decision to leave earlier? Kirstin Dow: In general there are materials available on flood zones, but the address specific information is not something I have seen. . .. Ava Moore: ? Kirstin Dow: I also wonder if that level of detail is really possible based on the limitations of the physical models. Ava Moore: Kirstin, in light of the congested Interstates ... Ava Moore: are you aware of any planning underway since Hurricane Floyd to ease the situation from all the southeastern states? Kirstin Dow: Yes, there has been a massive effort among Southeastern states to address the transportation issues. ... Kirstin Dow: The issues of lane reversal are being reconsidered in many states. ... Kirstin Dow: Regional coordination and traffic count system have been improved. ... Kirstin Dow: There is also a renewed discussion about the stress of the population on infrastructure and the limitations of the infrastructure. Ava Moore: Our time is up for today - closing remark, Kirstin? Kirstin Dow: In closing, thank you very much. If any of you would like to get in contact with me, my e-mail address is Kirstin- Dow@sc.edu. ... Kirstin Dow: I really appreciate your interest and questions. Ava Moore: Thank you very much for being with us today, Kirstin. We appreciate your time and effort on behalf of the EIIP Virtual Forum. Audience - thank you as well for your presence and participation. Please stand by a moment while we take care of some business. Ava Moore: Today's session will be accessible via the Transcripts link on our home page by Monday. The text version will be up later today. Ava Moore: Amy, will you tell us about next week please? A very important week to all of us! Amy Sebring: Thank you Avagene. First some pledge related info, we have a new pledge this week, Floyd Shoemaker from FEMA Region 8 ... Amy Sebring: //bell http://www.emforum.org/pledge.wav Thanks Floyd! Amy Sebring: Also, I have revised the page at http://www.emforum.org/eiip/pledge.htm and have added an "Honor Roll" for those who complete 12 months .... Amy Sebring: Right now we have two pledgers on the Honor Roll, but we have several more who are getting close, so keep up the good work! Amy Sebring: Now for our schedule for next week ... we will NOT be here at 12:00 Noon Eastern. Rather we will be in the VFRE room every day next week at 1:00 PM Eastern. The VFRE is the Virtual Fire and Rescue Exposition, with whom we have had a long association. Amy Sebring: This year the EIIP is very proud to host the "Emergency Management Track" of VFRE which will be devoted to the NFPA 1600 Standard on Disaster/Emergency Management and Business Continuity Programs, everything you did or did not want to know! Amy Sebring: We will be sending a special notice out regarding that event this afternoon. We want it to be successful, so we ask you to PLEASE, circulate the notice widely to your peers. Amy Sebring: This will be an exceptional opportunity to learn about the development of the standard, the impacts for government and business, the current status of the NEMA accreditation program, from those who have provided leadership in this area ... Amy Sebring: and on Friday we will conclude with a group discussion, similar in format to what we have done here with 10 pre-posted discussion questions. When you get the notice, please look over the sessions that may appeal to you and plan to be with us. Amy Sebring: If you are not on our mailing list and would send me a note at asebring@emforum.org , I will send you a copy of the announcement. Back to you Ava. Ava Moore: Thank you, Amy. Thanks to all our participants today. Your participation is very important to us. Ava Moore: We will adjourn the session for now, but you are welcome to remain for open discussion. You no longer need to use question marks. Please help us express our appreciation to Kirstin for today's presentation.